Horace Carleton Lambert-Gorwyn, 18861917 (aged 31 years)

Name
Horace Carleton /Lambert-Gorwyn/
Given names
Horace Carleton
Surname
Lambert-Gorwyn
Also known as
Horace /Lambert/
Birth
Birth of a brother
Birth of a brother
Birth of a brother
Death of a father
Address: Efford Cottage, Laira, Plymouth
Burial of a father
Occupation
Miller's Clerk
1901 (aged 14 years)
Address: Clara Place
Baptism of a sister
Religion: Anglican
Court Case
Conviction
February 1902 (aged 15 years)
Address: Wonford Sessions
Note: Police and Cyclists

Police and Cyclists

Cases at Wonford Sessions

Alleged Cruel Prosecution.

A Scene

Cyclists need to be on their guard. Yesterday at Wonford Sessions, William Coram, Heavitree; Edward Carter, Exmouth; Thomas Gibbons, Oliver W. Hindley, Miss Ellen Mary Peacock, and Miss T Somer, Exeter; Horace Gorwyn, Topsham; and Miss Margaret Clark, Heavitree, were summoned for driving or riding bicycles along the footpath on the Topsham-road, near Topsham.
Most of the defendants appeared and pleaded guilty, but Gorwyn,
a youth, contended that he was not guilty, as he merely pushed his machine along the path, and others who did the same had not been summoned. The evidence of P.C.'s Chaplin and vanstone was to the effect that defendant actually rode his machine along the footpath, and that although the road had been metalled there was space where defendant and the other persons summoned could have ridden without touching the footpath.Gorwyn put a number of wuestions to the witnesses, but did so irregularly, and the Deputy Chief-Constable (Mr. Jesse) interposed.
Mr Webber (a Magistrate):You are confusing the boy.
Mr Jesse: I am doing nothing of the sort.
Mr Webber: I say you are and I protest against it publicly.
Mr Jesse: I say I am doing nothing of the sort. i have a perfect right to interpose when questions are not being put properly.
Some of the lady defendants wrote that the roads were impassable for bicycles.
Mr Webber said that what the defendants stated was perfectly right.
Mr Jesse: You are adjudicating on these cases. are you going to give eveidence or not?
Mr Webber: A more cruel persecution than this never could take place.
Mr Collins: As chairman I don't wish to have any further remarks.
Mr jesse: I have never before had a remark made to me from the Bench like I have now, and if you came to get one person off you have no right to sit there and adjudicate.
Gorwyn was fined 6s inclusive; the other defendants 5s inclusive.
The Chairman said there had been so many complaints that the police had orders to take proceedings against cyclists using the public footpaths. The Deputy Chief-Constable had done what was perfectly correct in bringing the cases before the Bench.

Exeter & Plymouth Gazette
26 Feb 1902

Note: FMP

FMP

Western Times 26 February 1902

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000265%2f19020226%2f041

Marriage
Address: St Simon
Birth of a daughter
Birth of a daughter
Occupation
Auctioneer
February 1909 (aged 22 years)
Address: 59 Anayor Road
Baptism of a daughter
Address: 59 Anayor? Road

St Mary the Virgin
Death of a daughter
Burial of a daughter
Address: Saint Mary the Virgin, Twickenham, Richmond Upon Thames, England
Baptism
Address: 9 Edwards Road

St Helen Bishopsgate
Occupation
S E Clerk
1910 (aged 23 years)
Address: 15 Vicarage Road
Birth of a daughter
Baptism of a daughter
Address: 15 Vicarage Road
Occupation
Gentleman Private Means
1911 (aged 24 years)
Address: 3 Grand Parade
High St
Electoral Register
Electoral Register
1912 (aged 25 years)
Address: 40, Teddington-park-road, Teddington, Middlesex,
Note: Source Information:

Source Information:
Ancestry.com. London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data: Electoral Registers. London, England: London Metropolitan Archives.

Military
Army Pay Corps No 3121
November 3, 1914 (aged 28 years)
Adoption of a daughter
Adoption: Adopted by father
Not married
Note: No evidence yet of marriage or Horace having obtained a divorce
Military
Army Pay Corps, 2 Woolwich Detachment No. 3121
October 4, 1915 (aged 29 years)
Note: Discharged under King's Regulations para 392 XXV :- "His services no longer being required"

Discharged under King's Regulations para 392 XXV :- "His services no longer being required"

Character awarded in accordance with King's Regulations:-
"A very good clerk but unable to control his language."

Named as Horace Lambert

Note: Date of Discharge
Death of a mother
Address: 54 Wells Street, Exeter
Court Case
Conviction for fraud
July 18, 1916 (aged 30 years)
Address: Woolwich Police Court
Note: Thomas Ridley Henderson, 40, Soldier in custody 23 June 1916

Thomas Ridley Henderson, 40, Soldier in custody 23 June 1916
Pleaded Guilty to offences of conspiracy, fraud, forging and uttering valuable securities and demanding £1,850 2s. by virtue of forged documents

Walter Titley, 33, Soldier in custody 23 June 1916
Pleaded Guilty to offences of conspiracy, fraud and demanding £725 13s. 6d. by virtue of forged instrument.

Horace Lambert, 30, Nil in custody 28 June 1916
Pleaded Guilty to offences of conspiracy, fraud and demanding £1,850 2s. by virtue of forged instrument.

Commiting Magistrate
J. G. H. Halkett, Esq, Woolwich Police Court

Date of Warrant 11 July 1916

Before whom tried
Recorder 18th July 1916

Particulars of Offence:

All conspiring together and with other persons unknown to defraud His Majesty the King and the Secretary of State for War, to steal divers army forms, to forge and utter divers valuable securities, and to procure to be paid to themselves large sums of money by virtue of certain forged documents; obtaining by false pretences from His Majesty the King, His Majesty's Secretary of State for War and Herbert Field £22 10s. 6d. in money, with intent to defraud; stealing 100 Army Pay Office forms, 21 books of allowance forms and certain certificates of identity, the property of His Majesty's Secretary of State for War, and receiving the said property, knowing the same to be stolen.
All forging or uttering, knowing the same to be forged, valuable securities for payment of the several sums of £22 10s. 6., £22 10s. 6d., £21 10s. 6d. and £21 10s. 6d., 2 books of allowance forms and the writing on a certain document, and procuring to be paid to themselves the several sums of £1,850 2s. and £725 13s 6d. by virtue of certain forged instruments, knowing the same to be forged, in each case with intent to defraud.

Sentence or Order of the Court
18 months hard labour in respect of each offence, concurrent sentences, Wandsworth Prison.

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Western Times Monday 26th June 1916:

Evidence was given at Woolwich Police Court in a case, which was stated to involve about £4,000 of public moneys. The accused were Thomas Ridley Henderson, 40, a quartermaster-sergeant of the R.F.A., and Walter Titley, 33, a sergeant in the Army Pay Corps. They were charged with being concerned, with another man, not in custody, in stealing from the Army Pay Office, Woolwich, 100 Army money orders, the property of the Secretary for War. Detective-Inspector Gough, who gave evidence, stated, in reply to the magistrate, that the prisoners had been concerned in obtaining about £,4,000 by means of Army Money orders that were alleged to have been forged.- A remand was ordered.

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Coventry Evening Telegraph Wednesday 19 July 1916

Army Pay Frauds

At the Central Criminal Court, London, on Tuesday, before the Recorder, Thomas Ridley Henderson, forty, quartermaster-sergeant in the Royal Field Artillery; walter Titley, sergeant in the Army Pay Corps, and Horace Lambert, otherwise Gorwin, thirty, formerly in the Army Pay Corps, were sentenced to eighteen months hard labour for conspiracy to obtain money from the Secretary for War by means of false documents. The case related to the payment of separation allowances, and between £2,500 and £2,600 was involved. Lambert declared that a fourth man was implicated

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Dundee Courier Saturday 24 June 1916

£4,000 BY MEANS OF FORGED ARMY MONEY ORDERS

At Woolwich Police Court yesterday Thomas Ridley Henderson (40), battery quartermaster in a reserve brigade of the Royal Field Artillery, Woolwich, and Walter Titley ()33, sergeant in the Army Pay Corps, Woolwich, were remanded charged with being concerned with another man not in custody in stealing on March 15, 1915, from the Army Paay Office, Red Barracks, Woolwich, 100 army money order forms, the property of the Secretary for War.
Detective-Inspector Gough stated that the prisoners had been concerned in obtaining about £4,000 from various post offices by means of forged army money orders.

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Birth of a daughter
Address: St Mary's Nursing Home
Military
East Surrey Regiment
April 18, 1917 (aged 31 years)
Note: Prison sentence on remission by order of Sec of State on enlistment 18.4.1917

Prison sentence on remission by order of Sec of State on enlistment 18.4.1917

Transferred to 2nd Manchester Regiment

Death
Cause of death: killed in action
Family with parents
father
18501896
Birth: March 1850 30 26 Crediton, Devon, England
Death: April 9, 1896Plympton, Devon, England
mother
18511916
Birth: December 1851 43 45 Exeter, Devon, England
Death: February 11, 1916Exeter, Devon, England
Marriage MarriageNovember 18, 1879Alphington, Exeter, Devon, England
7 months
elder sister
Western Times 09 April 1910
18801976
Birth: June 28, 1880 30 28 Chulmleigh, Devon, England
Death: March 1976Sedgemoor, Somerset, England
2 years
elder brother
18821965
Birth: July 1882 32 30 Kingskerswell, Devon, England
Death: April 16, 1965South Africa
18 months
elder sister
18831885
Birth: 1883 32 31 Plymouth, Devon, England
Death: September 1885Exeter, Devon, England
3 years
himself
29 Montpelier Close
18861917
Birth: March 22, 1886 36 34 Cupreva Mews, North Road, Plymouth, Devon, England
Death: September 6, 1917Lombardzyde, Belgium
3 years
younger brother
18891958
Birth: February 3, 1889 38 37 Plymouth, Devon, England
Death: March 1958Exmouth, Devon, England
3 years
younger brother
18911985
Birth: December 15, 1891 41 40 Plymouth, Devon, England
Death: December 1985Exeter, Devon, England
3 years
younger brother
18941927
Birth: September 1894 44 42 Plymouth, Devon, England
Death: February 15, 1927Exeter, Devon, England
Family with Georgina Amelia Harriet Williams
himself
29 Montpelier Close
18861917
Birth: March 22, 1886 36 34 Cupreva Mews, North Road, Plymouth, Devon, England
Death: September 6, 1917Lombardzyde, Belgium
wife
Georgina Williams
18721952
Birth: December 25, 1872 48 24 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Death: January 28, 1952Hackney, London, England
Marriage MarriageNovember 4, 1906Fulham, London, England
daughter
Georgina Ethel Lambert-Gorwyn
19062000
Birth: November 15, 1906 20 33 Fulham, London, England
Death: March 2000Hackney, London, England
2 years
daughter
19081909
Birth: December 1908 22 35 Brentford, Middlesex, England
Death: February 1909Brentford, Middlesex, England
15 months
daughter
Margaret Lambert-Gorwyn
19101967
Birth: March 3, 1910 23 37 Teddington, Kingston, Middlesex, England
Death: March 1967Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England
Family with Ellen Clark
himself
29 Montpelier Close
18861917
Birth: March 22, 1886 36 34 Cupreva Mews, North Road, Plymouth, Devon, England
Death: September 6, 1917Lombardzyde, Belgium
partner
18861980
Birth: April 21, 1886
Death: December 1980Yeovil, Somerset, England
Not married Not married1914London, England
3 years
daughter
Helen Norah Lambert-Gorwyn
19162008
Birth: September 1, 1916 30 30 211 New Kings Road, Fulham, London, England
Death: December 14, 2008Orpington, Kent, England
Walter Windsor + Ellen Clark
partner’s husband
partner
18861980
Birth: April 21, 1886
Death: December 1980Yeovil, Somerset, England
partner’s daughter
Private
Birth
Occupation
Marriage
Occupation
Baptism
Occupation
Occupation
Death
Court Case

Police and Cyclists

Cases at Wonford Sessions

Alleged Cruel Prosecution.

A Scene

Cyclists need to be on their guard. Yesterday at Wonford Sessions, William Coram, Heavitree; Edward Carter, Exmouth; Thomas Gibbons, Oliver W. Hindley, Miss Ellen Mary Peacock, and Miss T Somer, Exeter; Horace Gorwyn, Topsham; and Miss Margaret Clark, Heavitree, were summoned for driving or riding bicycles along the footpath on the Topsham-road, near Topsham.
Most of the defendants appeared and pleaded guilty, but Gorwyn,
a youth, contended that he was not guilty, as he merely pushed his machine along the path, and others who did the same had not been summoned. The evidence of P.C.'s Chaplin and vanstone was to the effect that defendant actually rode his machine along the footpath, and that although the road had been metalled there was space where defendant and the other persons summoned could have ridden without touching the footpath.Gorwyn put a number of wuestions to the witnesses, but did so irregularly, and the Deputy Chief-Constable (Mr. Jesse) interposed.
Mr Webber (a Magistrate):You are confusing the boy.
Mr Jesse: I am doing nothing of the sort.
Mr Webber: I say you are and I protest against it publicly.
Mr Jesse: I say I am doing nothing of the sort. i have a perfect right to interpose when questions are not being put properly.
Some of the lady defendants wrote that the roads were impassable for bicycles.
Mr Webber said that what the defendants stated was perfectly right.
Mr Jesse: You are adjudicating on these cases. are you going to give eveidence or not?
Mr Webber: A more cruel persecution than this never could take place.
Mr Collins: As chairman I don't wish to have any further remarks.
Mr jesse: I have never before had a remark made to me from the Bench like I have now, and if you came to get one person off you have no right to sit there and adjudicate.
Gorwyn was fined 6s inclusive; the other defendants 5s inclusive.
The Chairman said there had been so many complaints that the police had orders to take proceedings against cyclists using the public footpaths. The Deputy Chief-Constable had done what was perfectly correct in bringing the cases before the Bench.

Exeter & Plymouth Gazette
26 Feb 1902

FMP

Western Times 26 February 1902

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000265%2f19020226%2f041

Electoral Register

Source Information:
Ancestry.com. London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data: Electoral Registers. London, England: London Metropolitan Archives.

Not married

No evidence yet of marriage or Horace having obtained a divorce

Military

Discharged under King's Regulations para 392 XXV :- "His services no longer being required"

Character awarded in accordance with King's Regulations:-
"A very good clerk but unable to control his language."

Named as Horace Lambert

Date of Discharge

Court Case

Thomas Ridley Henderson, 40, Soldier in custody 23 June 1916
Pleaded Guilty to offences of conspiracy, fraud, forging and uttering valuable securities and demanding £1,850 2s. by virtue of forged documents

Walter Titley, 33, Soldier in custody 23 June 1916
Pleaded Guilty to offences of conspiracy, fraud and demanding £725 13s. 6d. by virtue of forged instrument.

Horace Lambert, 30, Nil in custody 28 June 1916
Pleaded Guilty to offences of conspiracy, fraud and demanding £1,850 2s. by virtue of forged instrument.

Commiting Magistrate
J. G. H. Halkett, Esq, Woolwich Police Court

Date of Warrant 11 July 1916

Before whom tried
Recorder 18th July 1916

Particulars of Offence:

All conspiring together and with other persons unknown to defraud His Majesty the King and the Secretary of State for War, to steal divers army forms, to forge and utter divers valuable securities, and to procure to be paid to themselves large sums of money by virtue of certain forged documents; obtaining by false pretences from His Majesty the King, His Majesty's Secretary of State for War and Herbert Field £22 10s. 6d. in money, with intent to defraud; stealing 100 Army Pay Office forms, 21 books of allowance forms and certain certificates of identity, the property of His Majesty's Secretary of State for War, and receiving the said property, knowing the same to be stolen.
All forging or uttering, knowing the same to be forged, valuable securities for payment of the several sums of £22 10s. 6., £22 10s. 6d., £21 10s. 6d. and £21 10s. 6d., 2 books of allowance forms and the writing on a certain document, and procuring to be paid to themselves the several sums of £1,850 2s. and £725 13s 6d. by virtue of certain forged instruments, knowing the same to be forged, in each case with intent to defraud.

Sentence or Order of the Court
18 months hard labour in respect of each offence, concurrent sentences, Wandsworth Prison.

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Western Times Monday 26th June 1916:

Evidence was given at Woolwich Police Court in a case, which was stated to involve about £4,000 of public moneys. The accused were Thomas Ridley Henderson, 40, a quartermaster-sergeant of the R.F.A., and Walter Titley, 33, a sergeant in the Army Pay Corps. They were charged with being concerned, with another man, not in custody, in stealing from the Army Pay Office, Woolwich, 100 Army money orders, the property of the Secretary for War. Detective-Inspector Gough, who gave evidence, stated, in reply to the magistrate, that the prisoners had been concerned in obtaining about £,4,000 by means of Army Money orders that were alleged to have been forged.- A remand was ordered.

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Coventry Evening Telegraph Wednesday 19 July 1916

Army Pay Frauds

At the Central Criminal Court, London, on Tuesday, before the Recorder, Thomas Ridley Henderson, forty, quartermaster-sergeant in the Royal Field Artillery; walter Titley, sergeant in the Army Pay Corps, and Horace Lambert, otherwise Gorwin, thirty, formerly in the Army Pay Corps, were sentenced to eighteen months hard labour for conspiracy to obtain money from the Secretary for War by means of false documents. The case related to the payment of separation allowances, and between £2,500 and £2,600 was involved. Lambert declared that a fourth man was implicated

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Dundee Courier Saturday 24 June 1916

£4,000 BY MEANS OF FORGED ARMY MONEY ORDERS

At Woolwich Police Court yesterday Thomas Ridley Henderson (40), battery quartermaster in a reserve brigade of the Royal Field Artillery, Woolwich, and Walter Titley ()33, sergeant in the Army Pay Corps, Woolwich, were remanded charged with being concerned with another man not in custody in stealing on March 15, 1915, from the Army Paay Office, Red Barracks, Woolwich, 100 army money order forms, the property of the Secretary for War.
Detective-Inspector Gough stated that the prisoners had been concerned in obtaining about £4,000 from various post offices by means of forged army money orders.

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Military

Prison sentence on remission by order of Sec of State on enlistment 18.4.1917

Transferred to 2nd Manchester Regiment

Note

Type: BIRTHS Start date: Jun 1886 End date: Jun 1886
Volume: 5b Page: 291

from Sophia Lambert
Born in Plymouth. By 1901 he is a miller’s clerk, living with his mother and siblings in Topsham. Expert at needlework and embroidery. He was in the 2nd Manchester Regiment during the 1914-18 War and is thought to have died in 1917 at Ypres, although there is no record of a Gorwyn being killed in WW1.

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=617679

Possibly clerk in Army Pay Corp - discharged 1915
address 29 Montpelier Place, S W

Note

1911 Census
Address 3 GRAND PARADE HIGH ST TEDDINGTON Surrrey
Gentleman Private Means
married 7 Years

Note

http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=4403.0

Horace re-enlisted in the East Surrey Regt as pte 31850,he was amongst a batch of replacements who were transferred to the 2nd Manchesters on or around 19th July 1917,he died of wounds in either the 34th or 36th casualty clearing station at Zuydcoote.

Zuydcoote was mainly used by the 34th+36th casualty clearing stations for burying those who had died at these two hospitals,most of those who were killed outright,were buried in Coxyde military cemetery.
21 men of the 2nd Manchesters were killed or died of wounds in sept 1917,one other who was captured in 1914,died in a German POW camp


In the war diaries from the 10th Aug there were no casualties reported.

On the 1st of Sept the Bn took over from the 2/5th Bn Royal Scots in the right sub sector of the Lambartzyde Sector.
On the 2nd, 3rd, 4th the diaries just say Battalion in trenches.
On the 5th The Battalion in trenches, casualties 2/Lt ELR Horley and 1 other rank killed by shell fire.
On the 6th The Battalion relieved by the 2/5th Bn Royal Scots.

So the only Casualties reported in the diaries from the 10th Aug to the 6th Sept 1917 are the two on the 5th of Sept

pretty sure he was wounded by shell fire,pte 25699 Arthur Richards was wounded by shell fire,on 5th sept and died the same day as Horace, sgt 38836 William Sulliven and two others,were killed by shell fire on 7th sept while making improvements to the trenches
the battalion had working parties out wiring and improving the trenches during this period.
pte 39769 John Tindall was wounded by shell fire,and died on 13th sept

Had another look in the diaries and the history of the Manchesters, Both say the same the only casualties from the 2nd Bn were the two I mentioned and then again on the 21st Sept Rev. R. Gillanders the chaplin to the Battalion was wounded, while 3 other ranks were killed and 4 wounded.

BECKETT, Lance Corporal, JAMES, 273055, "B" Coy. 1st/7th Bn., Manchester
Regiment. 3 November 1917. Age 20. Son of Thomas and Maria Beckett. Grave Ref. II.
C. 23.
BRADLEY, Private, JOSEPH, 401119, 2nd Bn., Manchester Regiment. Died of wounds
8 September 1917. Age 18. Son of Thomas and Sarah Bradley, of Clayton-le-Moors,
Accrington. Grave Ref. I. C. 20.
CLEGG, Private, HARRY, 276626, 1st/7th Bn., Manchester Regiment. Died of wounds
11 November 1917. Age 22. Son of William and Elizabeth Clegg, of 98, Starkie St.,
Heywood, Lancs. Grave Ref. II. C. 27.
COOPER, Private, WRIGHT, 40525, 2nd Bn., Manchester Regiment. Died of wounds 8
September 1917. Age 20. Son of John and Ellen Cooper, of Mottram, Cheshire. Grave
Ref. I. C. 19.
DOHERTY, Private, THOMAS, 276434, 1st/7th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 11
November 1917. Age 27. Husband of Mrs. Minnie Doherty, of 236, Oldham Rd., Miles
Platting, Manchester. Grave Ref. II. B. 29.
ELLERY, Private, A, 44124, 1st/10th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 28 October 1917. Age
20. Son of Frank and Elizabeth Ellery, of 12, Belvoir Avenue, Levenshulme. Manchester.
Grave Ref. II. A. 30.
GLYNN, Corporal, J, 300219, 1st/8th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 11 October 1917.
Grave Ref. I. F. 14.
HEYWOOD, Private, A, 251739, 1st/6th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 8 November 1917.
Age 23. Son of Frank and Eliza Ann Heywood, of Manchester. Grave Ref. II. B. 8.
HIBBERT, Private, E, 351224, 1st/9th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 6 November 1917.
Grave Ref. II. B. 2.
HILTON, Private, HERBERT, 201166, 1st/6th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 8 November
1917. Age 23. Son of William and Martha Hilton, of 4, Hawthorn Avenue, Glazebury,
Culcheth, Lancs. Grave Ref. II. B. 7.
JOHNSON, Captain, WILLIAM GODFREY EARLAM, 1st/5th Bn., Manchester
Regiment. Died of wounds 13 October 1917. Age 24. Son of Mr. A. E. and Mrs. F. R.
Johnson, of Bickershaw Hall, Wigan. Grave Ref. I. F. 19.
KEEGAN, Private, JOHN, 201398, 1st/5th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 26 October 1917.
Age 29. Son of James and Mary Keegan, of 17, Knowles St., Platt Lane, Wigan. Grave
Ref. II. A. 33.
LAMBERT, Private, H, 51347, 2nd Bn., Manchester Regiment. 6 September 1917.
Grave Ref. I. C. 17.
LEE, Private, C J, 41672, 1st/8th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 19 October 1917. Grave
Ref. II. A. 6.
LONG, Private, FRANK, 39968, "B" Coy. 2nd Bn., Manchester Regiment. 8 September
1917. Age 19. Son of Alfred William and Elizabeth Long, of 19, Harrietta St., Hightown,
Manchester. Grave Ref. I. C. 25.
O'GARA, Private, W, 41507, 2nd Bn., Manchester Regiment. 18 September 1917. Grave
Ref. I. E. 8.
OLIVER, Private, J A, 201850, 1st/5th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 29 October 1917.
Grave Ref. II. C. 1.
PALMER, Private, HENRY GEORGE, 275434, 2nd Bn., Manchester Regiment. Died of
wounds 8 September 1917. Age 20. Son of Fred William and Elizabeth Palmer, of 32,
Denmark Rd., Greenheys, Manchester. Grave Ref. I. E. 27.
860
RICHARDS, Lance Corporal, A, 25699, 2nd Bn., Manchester Regiment. 6 September
1917. Age 27. Son of Mrs. Sarah Jane Richards; husband of S. N. B. Richards, of 226,
Pink Bank Lane, Longsight, Manchester. Born at Manchester. Grave Ref. I. C. 8.
RYAN, Private, W, 2670, 2nd Bn., Manchester Regiment. 8 October 1917. Grave Ref. I.
F. 6.
SAUNDERS, Private, R, 51448, 1st/10th Bn., Manchester Regiment. Died of wounds 29
October 1917. Age 24. Son of William and Maggie Saunders, of Donaghadee, Co. Down.
Grave Ref. II. C. 10.
SCHOLES, Private, FRED, 375187, 1st/10th Bn., Manchester Regiment. Died of wounds
9 November 1917. Age 24. Son of Mr. and Mrs. Joseph H. Scholes, of 107, Trafalgar St.,
Oldham. Grave Ref. II. B. 9.
SLATER, Private, J, 20137, 1st/5th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 26 October 1917. Grave
Ref. II. A. 25.
SMITH, Private, JOHN, 201510, 1st/5th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 19 October 1917.
Age 29. Son of John Smith, of 52, Windermere Rd., Leigh, Lancs. Grave Ref. II. A. 11.
SMITH, Private, W, 351730, 2nd/9th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 6 September 1917.
Grave Ref. I. C. 14.
SPRING, Private, W H, 251403, "D" Coy. 1st/6th Bn., Manchester Regiment. Died of
wounds 8 October 1917. Age 22. Son of Joseph and Elizabeth Spring, of 37, Stamford
St., Old Trafford, Manchester. Grave Ref. I. F. 5.
STEEN, Private, WILLIAM HENRY, 301969, "B" Coy. 1st/8th Bn., Manchester
Regiment. Died of wounds 14 November 1917. Age 20. Son of William Henry and Teresa
Steen, of 23, Ashworth St., Binns Rd., Liverpool. Born at West Derby, Liverpool. Grave
Ref. II. D. 7.
TINDALL, Private, JOHN, 39769, 2nd Bn., Manchester Regiment. 13 September 1917.
Age 21. Son of Joseph and Sarah Tindall, of 194, Rochdale Rd., Oldham. Grave Ref. I.
B. 19.
WARD, Private, A, 295023, 1st/7th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 12 November 1917.
Grave Ref. II. B. 28.
WILKINSON, Private, J R, 377928, 2nd/10th Bn., Manchester Regiment. Died of
pneumonia 23 September 1917. Age 37. Son of W. R. and M. Wilkinson, of Oldham;
husband of Ada Wilkinson, of 246, Belgrave Rd., Oldham. Grave Ref. I. E. 28.
WORTHINGTON, Private, S, 400167, 2nd/10th Bn., Manchester Regiment. 5
September 1917. Grave Ref. I. C. 10.

These are all the Manchesters buried in ZUYDCOOTE MILITARY CEMETERY, Nord, France and your right there are alot more burials of the 2nd Battalion that are not mentioned in the Diaries.

Horace Lambert
Born, Chagford, Devon
Lived, Kingston-On-Thames, Surrey
He enlisted at Streatham, Surrey
He only went abroad with the Manchester's as it is only the Manchester Regiment on the Medal index card.

Note

His brother Hector reported having seen Horace about 1920. He hadn't died in 1917 but had swapped IDs with another soldier.

Note

They separated Horace’s sister Hilda brought up their younger daughter. Both their two daughters married and have descendants.

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William Burgoyne (1794–1867) Horace Carleton Lambert-Gorwyn (1886–1917) Horace Carleton Lambert-Gorwyn (1886–1917) William Henry Burgoyne (1904–1970) Charlotte Lock Burgoyne (1802–1875) Mary Ann Burgoyne (1852–1908) Leslie Alexander Rutherford + Ethel Daisy Day Andrew Ernest McKeand (1859–1923) George Mills Newman (1861–1899) Dudley Vernon Wanostrocht (1888–1943) George Bray Hockings + Henrietta Burgoyne Susan Camp (1822–1891) David Whitelaw (1875–1971) Horace Carleton Lambert-Gorwyn (1886–1917) William Burgoyne + Sarah Buckingham John Blackler (1830–1899) David Whitelaw (1875–1971) John Baker Burgoyne (1823–1910) John Baker Burgoyne (1823–1910) Margaret Lambert-Gorwyn (1910–1967) William Burgoyne + Nell Rayleigh Riches Hayter Thornton Reed (1800–1881) Richard Lambert-Gorwyn + Sarah Bishop Paine Vincent Wanostrocht (1783–1824) Georgina Amelia Harriet Williams (1872–1952) Horace Carleton Lambert-Gorwyn + Georgina Amelia Harriet Williams Elizabeth Wanostrocht (1826–1856) James Sanderson Moffat (1875–1918) Henry Painter Buckingham (1796–1839) William Henry Burgoyne (1904–1970) Vincent Wanostrocht Giblin (1817–1884) Albert Edward Horswill (1879–1962) David Whitelaw (1875–1971) Richard Frank Camp (1895–1962) William Burgoyne + Sarah Buckingham William Burgoyne (1794–1867) Hilda Isabella Lambert-Gorwyn (1880–1976) David Whitelaw (1875–1971) Horace Carleton Lambert-Gorwyn (1886–1917) Sarah Lambert-Gorwyn (1842–1883) William Adams Heath + Sarah Gorwyn Young Mitchell (1811–1865) Helen Norah Lambert-Gorwyn (1916–2008) Sarah Buckingham (1850–1938) Lord George Lambert (1866–1958) David Whitelaw (1875–1971) Hilda Isabella Lambert-Gorwyn (1880–1976)